The Glade 4.0

"Turn the lights down, the party just got wilder."
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:28 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 253 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 11  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:10 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:49 pm
Posts: 3455
Location: St. Louis, MO
Good try, but you're late to the shaming-me-for-knowing-more-English-than-you party.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:11 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:59 am
Posts: 3879
Location: 63368
shuyung wrote:
Good try, but you're late to the shaming-me-for-knowing-more-English-than-you party.

Ah, then it WAS pretentious posturing!

I was leaning that way, to tell the truth.

_________________
In time, this too shall pass.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:22 pm
Posts: 5716
DFK! wrote:
I appreciate those of you speaking up, even Arathain's dissenting opinion. I naturally disagree with Arathain, but I'd like to just say that besides the fact that I consider ethics charges to be one of the worst a person can make against another person, including on something as "simple" or "insignificant" as a web forum, I am really not bothered.


Uh - just for the record, I don't remember any "ethical issues", nor any particular specifics. I just remember that your modding aggravated me a bit.

"Ethics" as a subject is actually incredibly difficult. Well, most of it is very easy - where it aligns with basic morality, but the other stuff is not so clear cut.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:43 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:22 pm
Posts: 5716
Oh, I remember now. I got a warning from you for telling someone to lighten up. Yup, not a fan.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:44 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:12 pm
Posts: 2366
Location: Mook's Pimp Skittle Stable
So because you got a warning that you didn't think you deserved, you think his modding was bad overall.

That's an umm.... mature, non-self centered opinion to have?

_________________
Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:45 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:49 pm
Posts: 3455
Location: St. Louis, MO
Taskiss wrote:
Ah, then it WAS pretentious posturing!

I was leaning that way, to tell the truth.

Onoz! I use words and phrases from outside my dialect!

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:48 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:22 pm
Posts: 5716
NephyrS wrote:
So because you got a warning that you didn't think you deserved, you think his modding was bad overall.

That's an umm.... mature, non-self centered opinion to have?


Self centered? Sure. But really, how good could he be if he throws around warnings for "lighten up"? ;)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:49 am 
Offline
The King
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 am
Posts: 3219
'Allo me old china - wot say we pop round the Jack. I'll stand you a pig and you can rabbit on about your teapots. We can 'ave some loop and tommy and be off before the dickory hits twelve.

_________________
"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:52 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:12 pm
Posts: 2366
Location: Mook's Pimp Skittle Stable
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
NephyrS wrote:
So because you got a warning that you didn't think you deserved, you think his modding was bad overall.

That's an umm.... mature, non-self centered opinion to have?


Self centered? Sure. But really, how good could he be if he throws around warnings for "lighten up"? ;)


If multiple people complained/reported the post, and all he did was warn you? What's the problem? You didn't get banned, suspended, your posts edited or deleted. You upset someone (obviously) and got a warning.

Now, if you had told *him* to lighten up and he'd warned you, that would be a completely different scenario.

_________________
Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:22 pm
Posts: 5716
NephyrS wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
NephyrS wrote:
So because you got a warning that you didn't think you deserved, you think his modding was bad overall.

That's an umm.... mature, non-self centered opinion to have?


Self centered? Sure. But really, how good could he be if he throws around warnings for "lighten up"? ;)


If multiple people complained/reported the post, and all he did was warn you? What's the problem? You didn't get banned, suspended, your posts edited or deleted. You upset someone (obviously) and got a warning.

Now, if you had told *him* to lighten up and he'd warned you, that would be a completely different scenario.


Nope. Nobody complained. Anyway, doesn't matter if they did, a warning for "lighten up" means you lose.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:12 pm
Posts: 2366
Location: Mook's Pimp Skittle Stable
Following that logic, moderating debates you're a part of twice over the course of a month means you lose as well.

Actually, that logic pretty much means every mod we've ever had loses.

I think they've all moderated stuff they shouldn't have at some point.

_________________
Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:14 pm 
Offline
Web Ninja
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:32 pm
Posts: 8248
Location: The Tunt Mansion
NephyrS wrote:
I think they've all moderated stuff they shouldn't have at some point.


We certainly aren't infallible.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:15 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:12 pm
Posts: 2366
Location: Mook's Pimp Skittle Stable
That was my point.

To say someone "loses" as a mod because of one or two bad moderation decisions is a pointless argument. Over time, every mod will (and has) done exactly that.

If you want perfection, write a computer program :-P

_________________
Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:21 pm 
Offline
God of the IRC
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:35 pm
Posts: 3041
Location: The United States of DESU
NephyrS wrote:
If you want perfection, write a computer program :-P


Quote:
[13:21] <+Tomoya> Moobot, are you perfect?
[13:21] <@Moobot> I was feeling horny.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:49 am
Posts: 2410
Let me tell folks how it would break down, so you understand. By the way, you can see evidence of this very thing right here in the thread.

I would be in an argument with DFK. I would say something that DFK thought impugned his honor or his ethics or something. He would demand that I do something like take it back, or apologize. He did all of this with black ink.

When I refused, or when I stood by my guns, he would then change his ink color and come at me as a moderator. If I didn't obey him, he would then take action. He didn't care if I was breaking the rules. He only cared that I was being critical of him as a person, and he was willing to use his red ink to threaten or punish me as a result.

In this thread, he called me a coward because I was posting in a place that was open and unregulated. In other words, what he wants me to do is expose myself to regulation for stating my opinions. It's not that he has a point, it's that he's terrified that his abuse of power is being aired in a place where I'm not going to be punished for being honest about it.

When DFK was a moderator, he had a huge double standard. I got in trouble for literally cutting and pasting an attack from another poster, and simply switching the names around. The other mods backed each other's hands, and then it became clear. The purpose for the moderation wasn't to moderate the board, it was to get rid of me.

Others have said as much while I was gone (Coro, I think?). The bias on that mod staff was extreme, and DFK was hands down the worse offender.

_________________
Image

It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:20 pm 
Offline
Web Ninja
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:32 pm
Posts: 8248
Location: The Tunt Mansion
Say what you will about who you will, but you were moderated because you got reported more than anyone else on the board combined. Don't get it twisted.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:20 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:12 pm
Posts: 2366
Location: Mook's Pimp Skittle Stable
Wow, just wow Monte.

_________________
Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:23 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:09 pm
Posts: 252
Monte wrote:
Let me tell folks how it would break down, so you understand. By the way, you can see evidence of this very thing right here in the thread.

I would be in an argument with DFK. I would say something that DFK thought impugned his honor or his ethics or something. He would demand that I do something like take it back, or apologize. He did all of this with black ink.

When I refused, or when I stood by my guns, he would then change his ink color and come at me as a moderator. If I didn't obey him, he would then take action. He didn't care if I was breaking the rules. He only cared that I was being critical of him as a person, and he was willing to use his red ink to threaten or punish me as a result.

In this thread, he called me a coward because I was posting in a place that was open and unregulated. In other words, what he wants me to do is expose myself to regulation for stating my opinions. It's not that he has a point, it's that he's terrified that his abuse of power is being aired in a place where I'm not going to be punished for being honest about it.

When DFK was a moderator, he had a huge double standard. I got in trouble for literally cutting and pasting an attack from another poster, and simply switching the names around. The other mods backed each other's hands, and then it became clear. The purpose for the moderation wasn't to moderate the board, it was to get rid of me.

Others have said as much while I was gone (Coro, I think?). The bias on that mod staff was extreme, and DFK was hands down the worse offender.


Could you provide a link to an example of this happening, please?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:29 pm 
Offline
The Dancing Cat
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:21 pm
Posts: 9354
Location: Ohio
Farther wrote:
Monte wrote:
Let me tell folks how it would break down, so you understand. By the way, you can see evidence of this very thing right here in the thread.

I would be in an argument with DFK. I would say something that DFK thought impugned his honor or his ethics or something. He would demand that I do something like take it back, or apologize. He did all of this with black ink.

When I refused, or when I stood by my guns, he would then change his ink color and come at me as a moderator. If I didn't obey him, he would then take action. He didn't care if I was breaking the rules. He only cared that I was being critical of him as a person, and he was willing to use his red ink to threaten or punish me as a result.

In this thread, he called me a coward because I was posting in a place that was open and unregulated. In other words, what he wants me to do is expose myself to regulation for stating my opinions. It's not that he has a point, it's that he's terrified that his abuse of power is being aired in a place where I'm not going to be punished for being honest about it.

When DFK was a moderator, he had a huge double standard. I got in trouble for literally cutting and pasting an attack from another poster, and simply switching the names around. The other mods backed each other's hands, and then it became clear. The purpose for the moderation wasn't to moderate the board, it was to get rid of me.

Others have said as much while I was gone (Coro, I think?). The bias on that mod staff was extreme, and DFK was hands down the worse offender.


Could you provide a link to an example of this happening, please?

Oh look, Farther is back. He's like Batman, very enigmatic and very up to speed on this issue in a brief span of time.

_________________
Quote:
In comic strips the person on the left always speaks first. - George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:33 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:09 pm
Posts: 252
I'm actually here regularly, I just don't log in unless I have something to say. "Hellfire" is best taken in small doses, in my opinion, but hardly the only forum I read. I'm hoping no one finds that offensive.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:12 pm
Posts: 2366
Location: Mook's Pimp Skittle Stable
I think he's actually just referring to you having only been here a relatively short time.

_________________
Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:59 am
Posts: 3879
Location: 63368
NephyrS wrote:
I think he's actually just referring to you having only been here a relatively short time.

And that you apparently caught on quickly. Not so quickly that you don't know that asking for a link will be ignored, but still.

_________________
In time, this too shall pass.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:37 pm 
Offline
Home of the Whopper
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:51 am
Posts: 6098
Taskiss wrote:
NephyrS wrote:
I think he's actually just referring to you having only been here a relatively short time.

And that you apparently caught on quickly.


And alluding to the idea that you might be someone who used to post here but just came back under a pseudonym.

_________________
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:59 am
Posts: 3879
Location: 63368
LadyKate wrote:
Taskiss wrote:
NephyrS wrote:
I think he's actually just referring to you having only been here a relatively short time.

And that you apparently caught on quickly.


And alluding to the idea that you might be someone who used to post here but just came back under a pseudonym.

I don't think Hop does allusions

How 'bout it Hop - can you make the Statue of Liberty disappear? ;)

_________________
In time, this too shall pass.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Re:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:45 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:15 pm
Posts: 9
Hopwin wrote:
Farther wrote:
Monte wrote:
Let me tell folks how it would break down, so you understand. By the way, you can see evidence of this very thing right here in the thread.

I would be in an argument with DFK. I would say something that DFK thought impugned his honor or his ethics or something. He would demand that I do something like take it back, or apologize. He did all of this with black ink.

When I refused, or when I stood by my guns, he would then change his ink color and come at me as a moderator. If I didn't obey him, he would then take action. He didn't care if I was breaking the rules. He only cared that I was being critical of him as a person, and he was willing to use his red ink to threaten or punish me as a result.

In this thread, he called me a coward because I was posting in a place that was open and unregulated. In other words, what he wants me to do is expose myself to regulation for stating my opinions. It's not that he has a point, it's that he's terrified that his abuse of power is being aired in a place where I'm not going to be punished for being honest about it.

When DFK was a moderator, he had a huge double standard. I got in trouble for literally cutting and pasting an attack from another poster, and simply switching the names around. The other mods backed each other's hands, and then it became clear. The purpose for the moderation wasn't to moderate the board, it was to get rid of me.

Others have said as much while I was gone (Coro, I think?). The bias on that mod staff was extreme, and DFK was hands down the worse offender.


Could you provide a link to an example of this happening, please?

Oh look, Farther is back. He's like Batman, very enigmatic and very up to speed on this issue in a brief span of time.


There is only one BatMod.

And that BatMod is me.

_________________
I'm BatMod.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 253 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 11  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 269 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group